How and when do you listen to podcasts?
In Marco Arment’s Overcast app, almost always in my car, during my too-short commute.
When podcasts first hit the mainstream, I had an hour-long commute to and from work, so I went hard. I used to download them to my Garmin Nuvi GPS if you can believe it. Now my commute is 15-20 minutes so I get snippets of shows. And because my car's media player does this hilariously bad guess at album art for podcast episodes, the consistently mismatched imagery becomes part of the entertainment. I take pictures of the worst offenders.
If I have a driveway moment with a podcast episode and absolutely must take it in the house with me, I’ll keep one AirPod in and half-way tune out my family. Don’t tell.
What podcasts do you listen to?
Mostly political stuff these days, for obvious reasons.
- Pod Save America (flagship show from Crooked Media, a healthy pressure relief valve for anger at our current situation)
- Pod Save the World / the People (two others from Crooked)
- The Breach (fascinating short-form examinations of the slow descent into authoritarianism)
- The Organizers (short interviews with political organizers)
- The Talk Show (John Gruber’s Apple tech show, I’ll catch an ep every once in awhile when I have fourteen hours to kill)
- Well Made (my friend, Lumi cofounder Stephan Ango’s interview podcast on which I was a guest recently for an episode I’ll probably point to if I ever want people to know what I’m about)
- Bullseye (I rarely have time to listen to my friend Jesse Thorn’s public radio show/podcast where he talks with notable creators and entertainers, but I consider him to be one of the world’s great interviewers)
Other than that, I’ll usually listen to an episode of a show when I’m interested in the guest. Recent examples, Charles Koch on a 2-part episode of the Freakonomics podcast, Jake Lodwick on a show called Stoner that explores how notable creative people embrace cannabis, the documentary filmmaker Adam Curtis on the (otherwise not-my-cup-of-tea) Chapo Traphouse podcast, and any time cognitive linguist George Lakoff is on On the Media, I’ll listen.
Are there any podcast episodes that have had a big impact on your life, business, or thinking?
I’ll point you to the (otherwise not-my-cup-of-tea) Chapo Traphouse episode where they interview the BBC documentary filmmaker Adam Curtis, who is one of the most fascinating commentators on modern political and mainstream culture. He makes huge, sweeping visual and spoken essays with his films that end up leaving you devastated.
At the end of the Chapo episode, they ask Curtis what to do now, and his answer is a 5-minute long call to arms about truly being willing to sacrifice for your ideals, not just because you want people to be nice to each other when you’re at Starbucks, but because in order to see true justice in the world, we have to identify the power centers in society and be willing to call them out.
It’s a podcast moment I go back to over and over when I need a boost.
Adam Lisagor started Sandwich Video seven years ago by accident. Now it’s the go-to video agency for the tech world to launch and promote good products. Adam leads a team of sixteen smart, kind people in Los Angeles, and after seven years of waking up to emails asking him to do filmmaking about the world’s newest technologies, he still thinks his job is impossibly cool.
Last year, Sandwich was one of Fast Company’s 10 most innovative companies in video, right next to Netflix, which basically makes them the Netflix of tech product video.