Matt Hartman

How and when do you listen to podcasts?

I listen to podcasts on my way to work and when I’m walking (often in between meetings).

Basically whenever I’m about to step outside, I think “what’s the audio experience I want right now” (not literally in those words, of course).

It’s usually making a phone call, listening to music or a podcast, audiobook, or to one of the new audio services such as or the Economist audio edition. However sometimes I just want to think, so I don’t listen to anything.

What podcasts do you listen to?

The podcast that I’m probably most loyal to is Exponent by Ben Thompson and James Allworth. I focus on early stage startups and I like their take on bigger companies.

After that, Daily Active User is a fun one that also focuses on tech.

But, I also enjoy getting outside of the technology world and learning about other things, so I enjoy Song Exploder, and recently have been listening to Ken Davinport’s The Producer’s Perspective, which is about the theatre industry. My interest there came from an interview I did for my own podcast, with Mike Bosner who was producer of Beautiful the Carol King Musical.

I'm also experimenting with Talking Machines and of course enjoy everything from Gimlet Media.

Are there any podcast episodes that have had a big impact on your life, business, or thinking?

The obvious answer is Serial, but perhaps not for the reasons you’d think.

It’s the first time that I heard a podcast in which every episode needed to be listened to in order. This looks much more like the consumption model for on-demand tv series than it does radio or tv talkshows.

I think people are starting to realize that this media format doesn’t just need to apply to investigative journalism. The Intern had a narrative story arc, as did StartUp.

About Matt

Matt Hartman is a partner at betaworks ventures. Prior to joining betaworks, Matt built ReferBoost (licensed to, and was at Hot Potato (acquired by Facebook). He began his career building the technology platform for Trammell Crow Company (acquired by CBRE) and is the inventor of Patent #8189781 related to the protection of digital images.